Wednesday, February 26, 2020

more on prevenient grace

i found some more information on the thing and it's bad.


Wiley unintentionally exposes the multiple contradictions of prevenient grace. He quotes the Articles of the Remonstrants which says that prevenient grace “heals the disorders of the corrupt nature, begins, advances, and brings to perfection everything that can be called good in man,” but in the very next breath says, “Nevertheless, this grace does not force the man to act against his inclination, but may be resisted and rendered ineffectual by the perverse will of the impenitent sinner.”[1] So on one hand, the Arminian admits that grace “heals the disorders” of sin, and brings man’s goodness “to perfection,” yet on the other, tells us that this same man resists this grace and that his will is “perverse” and “impenitent.” Which is it? Is the man healed of his sin or is he impenitent? Is he corrupt or is he perfect? Is he good or is he perverse? Arminian theology wants both. The Arminian wants the man to be free of his sin by God’s grace, but still a sinner, free to choose Christ of his own sinful will. The Arminian wants to believe that man is a free slave, a perverse believer. Why? He wants to be free from the constraints of God’s sovereign will at every cost to scripture and to reason.

Wiley continues by quoting Richard Watson’s Theological Institutes:

Everything which can be called good in man, previous to regeneration is to be attributed to the work of the Spirit of God. Man himself is totally depraved and not capable of either thinking or doing any good thin as shown by the previous article…The Spirit of God leads the sinner from one step to another, in proportion as He finds response in the heart of the sinner and a disposition to obedience. There is a human co-operation with the divine Spirit, the Holy Spirit working with the free will of man, quickening, aiding and directing it in order to secure compliance with the conditions of the covenant.[2]

In one breath, we see that Watson maintains that God works against man’s sinful will and brings so-called “good works” to fruition within the sinner, yet in the next, Watson still somehow upholds the “free will” of the subject in question. In one breath, “Man himself is totally depraved,” yet in the next, the Holy Spirit finds a “response in the heart of the sinner and a disposition to obedience.” The Arminian desperately desires freedom but tries to force it to fit within the context of scripture, but in the end, he speaks nonsense.



[1] Wiley, Christian Theology: Volume II, 352, emphasis added.
[2] Ibid.

Friday, February 21, 2020

summary: a repeat view review

ok just for any of you who haven't been following along for the past year or six months or so...this is what i'm doing. i am putting together a book, and if you read this BLOG you will read the chapters before they go to print. the book will compare arminianism and calvinism and all the effin problems that arminianism has.

scripture
sovereignty
sin
love
election
regeneration
justification
sanctification
perseverance

so many damn problems. i thought at least we could agree on sanctification and then i read wesley. or at least we can agree on justification and then i read wesley.

NO YOU CAN AND SHOULD BE PERFECT IF YOU WANT TO BE REDEEMED FOREVER

NO YOU DO NOT RECEIVE CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS YOU MUST BE RIGHTEOUS YOURSELF

i guess wesley, finney, et al, believed they were all perfect men.

arminians do not trust scripture. they have a superior plan of salvation to scripture. no, God is too partial, too cruel, so we believe that he should love everyone and damn no one unless they really want to be damned because otherwise if God chooses for all he's bad because we don't understand scripture we have to rewrite it to fit our limited, ignorant, arrogant comprehension. no, sin isn't that bad. it doesn't completely destroy the soul and make man unable to trust, love, follow, or serve God. sin isn't sin. no, God doesn't elect sinners. he elects righteous people. regeneration is something everyone has from birth. everyone receives Christ's justification and this is regeneration but everyone is also condemned because sin. sanctification is perfection. now in this life and you can do it because you have the "good power of free will" (NORMAN GEISLER). no, you have free will and you must be perfect but you will lose your salvation if you are not perfect because f*ck you. God only loves you as much as you can prove how righteous you are.

i hate this garbage theology. wesley ruined so much of the western church, and by the extension of missionary work, much of the Church. the synod of dort condemned arminianism for a reason, but every calvinist after edwards except maybe macarthur just let it slide. fckin hell.

sorry i'm just mad

Thursday, February 20, 2020

god's love: probably the last time


How are we to make sense of this? How do we reconcile God’s love and hate? How does he love anyone at all? What do we know about God’s love? We know that God loves his Son, we know that God loves Israel, and we know that God loves his Church.

God loves Christ.

After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.”[1]

Christ is the image of God, the firstborn of creation. He is the only Son of God. All things have been created by him and in him all things hold together. He is the head of the Church, and all the fullness of God dwells in him. Through him, we have been reconciled to God.[2] Christ emptied himself of his God-form and took our form. He humbled himself by dying on the cross for our sins, and every person will bow to him and confess that he is Lord.[3] God loves Christ because Christ is worthy of his love, he reflects the Father, and they share a relationship.

Jonathan Edwards describes the many excellencies of Christ—infinite highness and infinite condescension; infinite justice and infinite grace; infinite glory and lowest humility; infinite majesty and infinite meekness, and so on.[4] If “the worth and excellency of a soul is to be measured by the object of its love,”[5] then God loves Christ because Christ deserves his love. God only loves that which deserves his perfect love; to love anything corrupted by sin, any person tainted by rebelliousness, is to deny his holy nature. His righteousness and holiness require wrath and judgment on the sinner, but since Christ is perfectly holy and righteous as his Father, God loves Him.

Among the nations, we know that God loves Israel and only Israel. God chose Abraham and established a covenant with him, and through him, created a nation. God did not choose Abraham because he was exceptionally righteous or faithful. Abraham acted cowardly on numerous occasions, displaying a remarkable lack of faith for a man set apart by God. He lied about his wife (Genesis 12.11-13; 26.7); he refused to believe that God would give him a son, and instead God chose Abraham to bless “all the families of the earth” through Abraham and his descendants (Genesis 12.3; 18.18; 22.18; 26.4; 28.14), and by this, glorify his great name (Isaiah 42.8; 43.7; 48.9-11; Jeremiah 16.21; Ezekiel 20.9, 14, 22). Not to bless humanity, but to glorify himself, did God choose to love Israel. God intended to bless “all the families” (Genesis 12.3) and “all the nations” (Genesis 18.18), and people from “all tribes and peoples and tongues,” (Revelation 7.9) but never “every man” or “every person.” God did not establish a covenant with the Ammonites or the Amalekites or the Philistines, but only with Israel, because he never intended to love every person on earth.

The psalmist says, “Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good, for his lovingkindness is everlasting” (Psalm 136.1). This psalm describes God’s actions on behalf of his people with whom he established a covenant, and no one else.

To Him who smote the Egyptians in their firstborn, For His lovingkindness is everlasting,
And brought Israel out from their midst, For His lovingkindness is everlasting,
With a strong hand and an outstretched arm, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
To Him who divided the Red Sea asunder, For His lovingkindness is everlasting,
And made Israel pass through the midst of it, For His lovingkindness is everlasting;
But He overthrew Pharaoh and his army in the Red Sea, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
To Him who led His people through the wilderness, For His lovingkindness is everlasting;
To Him who smote great kings, For His lovingkindness is everlasting,
And slew mighty kings, For His lovingkindness is everlasting:
Sihon, king of the Amorites, For His lovingkindness is everlasting,
And Og, king of Bashan, For His lovingkindness is everlasting,
And gave their land as a heritage, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.[6]

The psalmist celebrates God’s judgment on the Egyptians (cf. Exodus 7.4), and the destruction of the enemies of Israel (Numbers 21.21-24, 33-35). He presents these actions as evidence of God’s love for Israel. How can we say that God “loved” these other nations in any sense of the word?

God speaks tenderly to Israel, and even when she worships other gods, he promises her redemption and forgiveness.

‘Fear not, O Jacob My servant,’ declares the LORD, ‘And do not be dismayed, O Israel; For behold, I will save you from afar and your offspring from the land of their captivity. And Jacob will return and will be quiet and at ease, and no one will make him afraid. ‘For I am with you,’ declares the LORD, ‘to save you; For I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you, Only I will not destroy you completely. But I will chasten you justly and will by no means leave you unpunished.’[7]

God loves Israel even though she betrays him. He says, “Is Ephraim my dear son? Is he a delightful child? Indeed, as often as I have spoken against him, I certainly still remember him; therefore my heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him” (Jeremiah 31.20). We do not see love like this for any other nation. God chose Israel, he led her to Egypt and delivered her, he gave her an inheritance, and he chastised her when she strayed. He did all of this only for Israel. As for the nations who worshipped other gods, he condemned. Why did God not command the Israelites to convert the other nations? If God loved them as he loved Israel, he must have wanted to redeem them as well.

God promised Abraham that he would father a great nation, and that through him, “All the families of the earth will be blessed” (Genesis 12.3). God promised the blessing of salvation through Abraham and his descendants to everyone. Puritan John Gill interprets this to mean, “not every individual of all the families or nations of the earth; but that as many as believe in Christ, of all nations, are blessed in him.”[8] God desires to bless “all the families of the earth,” but this does not include every man, woman, and child to ever be born. God blesses us through a relationship with him, and he does not initiate a relationship with everyone. He did with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but not with all of Abraham’s descendants. God did not establish a covenant with Ishmael, Abraham’s first son, nor with Esau, his grandson.

Noah had three sons, and God ignored all the generations after Noah, from Shem to Arpachshad, to Shelah, to Eber, to Peleg, to Reu, to Serug, to Nahor, and Terah, until Abram. God did not begin a covenant with any man until nearly four hundred years after Noah.[9] God ignored the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaim, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites, and Jebusites (Genesis 15.19-20). God not only ignored these tribes, but he promised Abraham that he would give him their land by military conquest (Exodus 23.23). He did not command Moses to convert these other tribes to his covenant, to intermarry with them, or even to make treaties with them, but to destroy them completely (Exodus 23.31-33; 34.12-17; Deuteronomy 7.2-5; Numbers 33.52). God favored the Israelites to such a degree that he destroyed any other nation that threatened to turn her from him.

In the New Testament, Christ speaks to Nicodemus and tells him, “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” While John Wesley assumed that this verse refers to all men and women to ever live, earlier Puritans understood it to refer only to the people that God has chosen for himself, much in the same way that he loved Israel in the Old Testament. Thomas Watson says,

Before this covenant there was nothing but enmity. God did not love us, for a creature that offends cannot be loved by a holy God; and we did not love him, since a God that condemns cannot be loved by a guilty creature; so that there was war on both sides.[10]

God cannot love any sinner outside of a covenant because God is holy. He must hate the sinner if there is no atonement. Nicodemus understood this. When Christ began to describe those God loves, he would have expected Christ to say, “For God so loved Israel,” but I doubt he would be completely surprised to say “the world,” since God made this promise to Abraham. I can guarantee he would have been surprised to hear Christ say, “For God so loved every person in the world, regardless of his covenant status…”

If God had declared his love for all sinners, both in and out of the sphere of his election, he would have simultaneously declared a fundamental shift in his holy character. If God suddenly declares that he loves both sinner and saint equally, then why did he destroy the nations of the Old Testament? Why did he destroy Egypt? Why did he condemn Assyria (Isaiah 10.5-34), instead of seeking her redemption as he did with Israel so many times after she worshipped other gods? Why did God swear to “utterly blot out the memory of Amalek” (Exodus 17.14)? Why did he hide knowledge of himself from “the wise and intelligent” (Matthew 11.25)? Why did he give revelation of himself to the disciples and not to the crowds (Matthew 13.11)?

God does not love every person in Creation. It is a miracle that he loves any of us at all. No one deserves his love and if God loved the sinner apart from election and the guarantee of the atonement, then he would be a sinner. God has directed every promise of love to his people, to those who believe in him, who submit to his will, and who trust in his name. There is no passage, verse, word, or promise in scripture that is excepted from this. Every promise of love in scripture must first be qualified by his holiness, his hatred of sin, and hatred of the sinner, and second by his election of a special group of people to enter into covenant with him, to receive his love, to be holy, and to trust in him. Love only exists in a relationship—every kind of indiscriminate “love” is not love, but is instead adultery. Only the covenant that God establishes with us can possibly mitigate the sin that he hates in the sinner that he hates. There is no such thing as love outside of Christ and his sacrifice. Everyone outside of Christ receives only wrath.

The Lord keeps all who love him
But all the wicked he will destroy.[11]

Arminians believe that God loves all men equally because he desires all men to be saved. If we read the New Testament carefully, we cannot possibly apply the love of God in all of its depth and magnificence to the unbeliever.

And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.[1]

God has planned the benefits of his redemption for those he loves from the beginning of Creation. He has called those he loves, foreknown us, predestined, justified, and will glorify us. This is God’s love for us, not from the time we chose to believe, but from the beginning! This cannot possibly apply to the unrepentant sinner who perishes eternally, but Arminians believe that God’s love for us equals his love for the unbeliever.

What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Just as it is written,
“For Your sake we are being put to death all day long;
We were considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”
But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.[2]

God does not waiver in his love for us and nothing we or anyone else does can separate us from his love, but if God loves everyone equally, then this verse applies to everyone, everyone belongs to him and will eventually be saved regardless of their faith or repentance. Scripture does not teach this, however. God only loves his own.

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.[3]

To those whom God loves, he has revealed himself; he has predestined, sealed, and redeemed them as his possession, and he has done this since the beginning. In no way does this love apply to every person to ever exist.

But what about John 3.16? Does this verse not emphatically declare that God loves everyone?
The first problem with this interpretation is the word “world.” The verse does not say that God loves “everyone,” but that he loves “the world.” The second problem is God’s promise that he would bless “all the families of the earth” through Abraham.

In the gospel of John, the exact phrase “the world” occurs fifty times and its meaning varies according to the context. In John 1.9, it means the physical earth.

There was the true light, which coming into the world, enlightens every man.

In John 1.10, “the world” refers to either the physical world or all the unbelievers in the world.

He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world did not know him.

In John 1.29, it refers to Christians.

Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world![12]

In John 3.17, “the world” refers to the physical earth and to those who believe.

For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through him.

In John 6.33, the phrase denotes believers.

For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.

Christ uses “the world” in John 7.7 to refer to the world of unbelievers.

The world cannot hate you, but it hates Me because I testify of it, that its deeds are evil.

The Pharisees use “the world” in John 12.19 to refer to those who were following after Christ.

The world has gone after Him.

Depending on the context, “the world” may have many different meanings. Sometimes it has different meanings in the same verse! John Gill says, “Nothing is more common in the Jewish writings, than to call the Gentiles עלמא, the world; and כל עולס, the whole world; and אומת העולס, the nations of the world; hence the apostle Paul calls them κοσμος, the world, in Romans 11:12,15.”[13] This is consistent with God’s promise to Abraham in Genesis 12.3: “In you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” It is consistent with the fulfillment of Abraham’s blessing in Revelation 5.9: “Worthy are you to take the book and to break its seals; for you were slain, and purchased for God with your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation.” God loves “the world” in that he loves Jews and Gentiles, but not every person in all of Creation. Before Christ, salvation belonged only to the Jews. God had promised salvation to all people, but the Mosaic covenant only applied to Israel. Christ now tells Nicodemus that salvation belongs also to “the world,” meaning Jews and Gentiles, and then he immediately qualifies the phrase to include only those who believe in him.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Christ brackets his statement of God’s love with the phrase “whoever believes.”

Whoever believes will in him have eternal life…whoever believes in Him shall not perish.

God loves his people. Whereas before Christ, God redeemed only the Jews, now the Gentiles enjoy the benefits of salvation. When Christ says, “For God so loved the world,” he expands God’s covenant of love to now include Jews and Gentiles. If we look closely at the verses previously thought to declare God’s love for all men, we can easily see that they only include those whom he has chosen for salvation, his Church. Not only do we see that God loves only his people, but we see that God hardens the hearts of those he does not love and prevents them from trusting in him.

Does 1 Timothy 2.4 say that God wants all men to be saved?

[God] desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

In context, this verse tells us that God desires not only common people, but “kings and all who are in authority” (2.2) to be saved. It does not tell us that God desires all men everywhere in all of Creation to be saved.

Let’s look at 2 Peter 3.9.

The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

If we assume that God wants all men to be saved, then we can easily ignore the first part of the verse: “[God] is patient toward you.” Peter says that God does not want any of his people to perish, including those predestined from the beginning of the world to be his children (Romans 8.29, 30; Ephesians 1.5).

Ezekiel expresses the same idea in chapter 18 of his book.

“Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord God, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?”

God declares his desires to Israel and not to the entire world. He does not want any of his people to perish, but to repent. At the beginning of the chapter, he addresses Israel (18.1), and again and again he speaks to Israel.

Hear now, O house of Israel!
Are my ways not right, O house of Israel?
Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel.
For why will you die, O house of Israel?[14]

What about 1 John 2.2?
He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

If Christ is the propitiation of “the whole world,” as in every person on earth, then every person on earth has been forgiven, but we know this is not true. John says that Christ is “our” propitiation, but who is “us”? In the first two verses of this book, John says

What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life…we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life.

“We” includes the Jews who were eyewitnesses of Christ’s life. John is writing to Jews who witnessed the life of Christ along with him, and again, he mentions “the whole world” to include all the Jews and Gentiles who will believe in Christ from their proclamation of the Gospel, but not every person in the world.[15]

In both testaments, God prevents men from turning to him. In Exodus, God hardens Pharaoh’s heart.

I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.
But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart that I may multiply My signs and My wonders in the land of Egypt.
But when Pharaoh saw that there was relief, he hardened his heart and did not listen to them, as the Lord had said.[16]

God hardened the heart of the king of Heshbon in order to give his land to the Israelites.

But Sihon king of Heshbon was not willing for us to pass through his land; for the Lord your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, in order to deliver him into your hand, as he is today.[17]

God hardened of nearly all the nations that Israel conquered.

For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, to meet Israel in battle in order that he might utterly destroy them, that they might receive no mercy, but that he might destroy them, just as the Lord had commanded Moses.[18]

God keeps ordinary individuals from repentance as well as rulers of nations.

Now Eli was very old; and he heard all that his sons were doing to all Israel, and how they lay with the women who served at the doorway of the tent of meeting. He said to them, “Why do you do such things, the evil things that I hear from all these people? No, my sons; for the report is not good which I hear the Lord’s people circulating. If one man sins against another, God will mediate for him; but if a man sins against the Lord, who can intercede for him?” But they would not listen to the voice of their father, for the Lord desired to put them to death.[19]

In Matthew 13.11, Christ tells his disciples that God has granted only them the knowledge of his kingdom.

To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted.

We see this again in Matthew 11.25.

I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

In John 9.39, Christ tells the Pharisees that they are spiritually blind because God has judged them.

For judgment I came into this world, so that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may become blind.

God hates all sinners, yet he has chosen some to love and to receive the blessing of redemption. This is unquestionably an unpleasant idea, but it is also unquestionably biblical. From the beginning of Scripture to the end, we see that God planned to redeem the whole world, as in “all the families of the earth” and men and women from “every tribe and tongue and people and nation.”



[1] Matthew 3.16, 17.
[2] Colossians 1.15-20.
[3] Philippians 2.6-11.
[4] Jonathan Edwards, “The Excellencies of Christ,” Public Domain.
[5] Henry Scougal, “The Life of God in the Soul of Man,” Public Domain, Part 2.
[6] Psalm 136.10-21.
[7] Jeremiah 30.10-11.
[8] John Gill, Commentary on the Old Testament, Genesis 12. Public domain.
[9] Genesis 11.10-26.
[10] Watson, Body of Divinity, (Carlisle: The Banner of Truth Trust, 1890), 154.
[11] Psalm 145.20
[1] Romans 8.28-30.
[2] Romans 8.31-38.
[3] Ephesians 1.3-14.
[12] Arminians typically interpret this to mean, “Behold, the Lamb of God who might take away the sin of some of the people in the world!”, an interpretation which is not justified by the context.
[13] John Gill, The Cause of God and Truth, (Atlanta, Turner Lasseter: 1962), page 66.
[14] Ezekiel 18.25, 29, 30, 31.
[15] For a more extensive argument on the subject, see John Gill’s The Cause of God and Truth (public domain).
[16] Exodus 4.21; 7.3; 8.15.
[17] Deuteronomy 2.30.
[18] Joshua 11.20
[19] 1 Samuel 2.22-25.


Wednesday, February 19, 2020

arggg

it's taken me a few weeks, but i've FINALLY got around to finishing the next chapter: God loves his Church. Probably the most misunderstood part of this whole book and consequently the hardest to piece together even though i've written a paper on this before. we all want God to love everyone, but we should want more to search out scripture on the matter, from the beginning of it to the end. there's actually a lot in the Bible that suggests God does not love every person in Creation. this is unpleasant news, but i guess that's why the Gospel is such good news.

almost finished

Goat Farmers: Introduction

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