Tuesday, January 28, 2020

the irrefutable application of logic to doctrine


Theologian and apologist Norman Geisler’s written works span an enormous breadth of Christian thought, yet his conclusions sometimes originate from faulty reasoning and pure speculation. Geisler relies as much on his ability to reason as he does on actual scripture. He often ignores scripture because his reason gives him the conclusion he wants. While obviously sound doctrine requires using human reason, we must always base our conclusions on the truths simply and clearly declared by scripture and separate our selfish human desires from our endeavors.

In his Systematic Theology, Geisler devotes an entire chapter to Logic. In this, he defines and discusses the application of logic to theology. “Logic deals with the methods of valid thinking,” he says.[1] All thinking requires logic, says Geisler.[2] He diligently lays out the laws of logic, including syllogisms, deductive and inductive logic, along with various fallacies and propositions, etc., etc.
If logic is the basis of all thinking, and theology is thinking about God, then it follows that logic is the basis of all thinking about God.[3]
Logic allows us to form arguments, to think about our world, about ideas, and to arrive at conclusions. Patrick Hurley, author of the standard collegiate textbook on the subject, says that logic gives us “the skill needed to construct sound arguments and to evaluate the arguments of others.”[4] Hurley tells us that logic instills the necessary awareness needed for “clear, effective, and meaningful communication.”[5] Hurley does not grant the universal ability to logic that Geisler does. Logic does not form the basis for thinking, but it allows us to evaluate our thinking, at least from a secular reference point. From a spiritual reference, logic can help us avoid errors, but it does not teach us anything. Theology is the study of God, not thinking about him. Finney had thoughts of God, as well as Pelagius, Aristotle, and Plato. Every atheist has thoughts of God. “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God,’” says the psalmist (Psalm 14.1). In order to study God, he must draw us to him and reveal himself. Christ said, “No man can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him” (John 6.44). In the book of Jeremiah, God said, “I will put my law within them and on their heart I will write it” (Jeremiah 31.33). we do not learn about God by our sinful, irrational minds. God has given logic as a tool, yet we are unable to use it to its full advantage without his grace.

Theologians have traditionally relegated the nature of the Trinity to mystery; they do the same with the incarnation of Christ. Logic cannot abide with mystery, and trusting in mystery does not satisfy Geisler. He feels a need to logically confine this mystery in a logical cage. He attempts to explain these divine, incomprehensible, glorious truths and fit them into his ridiculous human vocabulary.
In the Godhead there is one What and three Whos; in Christ, the second person of the Godhead, there is one Who and two Whats. In the Incarnation, one Who in God assumed another What, so that there were two Whats in one Who.[6]
We do not glorify God by attempting to reduce him to colloquialisms of bizarre pronouns and meaningless equations. He is beyond us necessarily and forever so.

Geisler fails to apply his own stated rules in applying logic. He describes deductive logic through syllogisms and propositions. In a syllogism, we define terms, apply a property to the general term, and then single out one example. If the example meets the definition of the term, then the property applies. In Geisler’s example
All human beings are sinful.
John is a human being.
Therefore, John is sinful.
[7]
Syllogisms use propositions. A proposition declares a property of a term.
All human beings are sinful.
Though Geisler states the importance of using propositions in forming theological conclusions, he ignores the propositions he disagrees with. He agrees that human beings are sinful, and that “spiritual death is spiritual separation from God,”[8] yet he denies Paul’s direct statement that the spiritually dead cannot please God. Geisler believes that spiritual death does not mean that humans are so depraved that “they have no capacity to understand and respond to God’s message.”[9] Geisler ignores the statement of Christ, who said that we do not bear spiritual fruit apart from him (John 15.5). He ignores Paul, who said that the spiritually dead mind “is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8.6-8). Paul repeats this to emphasize that men cannot believe in God, as God is only pleased by our faith in him (Hebrews 11.6).[10] 

Geisler also illogically uses analogies to prove his point, but analogies do not prove anything. He isolates verses that describe sinners as polluted, sick, and in darkness, and then says, “A sick person is able to receive a cure, just as a dirty person can embrace cleansing and a person in the dark can accept light.”[11] Analogies do not give us information. They do not strengthen arguments or create counterpoints. Analogies merely serve to illustrate proven points. If we found our doctrine entirely on scripture, analogies prove nothing. Scripture uses many metaphors to describe our unredeemed state, and Geisler focuses on only those that validate his position, even though he says in his Logic chapter that inductive logic requires examination of the broadest possible sample of evidence.[12] May I add another logical rule: direct statements are stronger than metaphors. Scripture uses metaphors to clarify and exposit theological concepts, but we speculate dangerously when we extend these metaphors beyond the text.

When Geisler says that sinners are polluted and in need of cleansing,[13] he cites Titus 2.14, which says
[Christ] gave himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for himself a people for his own possession, zealous for good deeds.
Notice Paul does not say that we are not clean. He implies this. Direct statements are also stronger than implications. We can look elsewhere and find that sinners are unclean (Isaiah 6.5), but we cannot conclude this from this passage alone.

Geisler fails to discuss the interplay between language and logic. Unfortunately, scripture does not neatly state its propositions in proper, logical form, always using categorical syllogisms, propositions, or excluded middles. We must do much of this work ourselves. While Geisler pretends to give homage to clear, rational thought, he makes broad doctrinal statements without clearly laying out the evidence for them. In discussing predestination and free will, he says that “the Bible affirms that human beings are free to accept or reject God’s gift of salvation (John 1.12; Romans 6.23; Matthew 23.37; 2 Peter 3.9).”[14] None of these verses contain a proposition about free will. The concept of free will can only be read into the verses if one assumes a priori that free will is true. We expect a proposition declaring that man is free to accept or reject God to read like this:
Men can freely accept or reject God’s gift of salvation.
John 1.12 says, “As many as received him, to them he gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in his name.” We can rephrase this as a conditional statement:
If a man believes in his name and receives him, he gives them the right to become children of God.
Does this declare man’s freedom? Pair it with John 1.13, which says that these who receive Christ “were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” If we combine the two verses together and rephrase them as a conditional statement, they in fact deny free will.
If a man believes in Christ’s name and receives him, then Christ gives him the right to become a child of God, and this only because of God’s will, not a man’s will, by his blood, or by his father.
If we state this categorically rather than conditionally, as the text is presented, we have this.
By God’s will alone, we are his children, and God gives his children the right to become his children because they believe in Christ and receive Christ.
Logically, this is nonsense. This can only be revealed to us. We are always his children because he has decided this to be, because we believe in Christ, and we believe because we are his children.
None of these verses declare free will. Romans 6.23 tells us that the wages of sin is death. This tells us nothing about man’s will, but only of the consequences of sin. In Matthew 23.37, Christ laments over the unwillingness of Israel to repent. Unwillingness does not indicate free will if Christ said, “Everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin” (John 8.34); it actually confirms the slavery of the will. Christ gives us the direct statement that we need to begin to logically form theology—Man is a slave—but not the statement that Geisler wants. Peter does not make a statement about free will in 2 Peter 3.9, but instead a statement of God’s desire for all of his children to believe in him. Geisler adds to these passages what he wants to be true. Instead of applying his strict rules of logic, he falls victim to his self-centered desire to be free from God’s sovereignty.

Every Arminian fails in this respect. Instead of asking, “What does scripture teach?”, he says to himself, “This is what I want scripture to teach.” Not a one of them realizes that he is a proud, self-centered human being, and that this is the first and foremost admission he must make before he attempts to know God.




[1] Norman Geisler, Systematic Theology, (Bloomington: Bethany House, 2011), page 61.
[2] Ibid.
[3] Ibid, 68.
[4] Patrick Hurley, A Concise Introduction to Logic, (Belmont: Wadsworth, 2000), vii.
[5] Ibid.
[6] We find this tragic intersection of comedy and theology in Geisler, Theology, 71.
[7] Geisler, Theology, 61.
[8] Ibid, 771.
[9] Ibid.
[10] And subsequent obedience, obviously, as James points out—true faith always obeys (James 2.26).
[11] Ibid, 772.
[12] Ibid, 66.
[13] Ibid, 772.
[14] Ibid, 71.

Monday, January 27, 2020

R.I.P.

I've never been much of a sports guy. My Dad never idolized any team so neither did I. I don't mind at all but he did watch the super bowl every year and we watched the NBA finals up until the Lakers dynasty collapsed. Kobe was the last Lakers star that I cared about and I'm old enough to remember Kareem and Magic throwing up championship winning skyhooks.

This kid was barely younger than me, and I remember thinking

Why isn't he going to college? He needs to go to college!

I had watched Tracy Murray crush three point shots in our gym when I was a junior in high school. He made one after another after another while he warmed up, and when he finally missed one, we all cheered. He was playing against us. We lost of course. Tracy Murray when on to UCLA and then the Blazers and a bunch of other teams but never achieved what Kobe did. Murray blew us all away as a high school kid—I can't even imagine what Kobe must have been like in high school. He didn't even play in college. Most players go to college to learn to play, to mature, etc., but this kid was drafted before he graduated. The Lakers had played out their first dynasty of Kareem, Magic, and some other dudes I don't remember and they were at the bottom so they had a top draft pick and they grabbed Kobe. I didn't pay attention much to sports, like I said, but I knew about him. Everyone in southern California did. He signed with Shaq Attack and after a few rough starts, they won. A lot. He was an amazing athlete. I remember reading about his intense workouts. One thing he did was take a huge medicine ball and jump vertically while throwing it to the roof of the gym. He was a phenomenon.

I pay attention to celebrity deaths these days. I have been, even before this. So many people die tragically all the time. Young people, in accidents or overdoses or whatever. Old people die too, of course, but you don't see many reports about them. They're supposed to die. Everyone sees it coming. 

My mom's Aunt Jenny just died. She was quite the pistol. Full of piss and vinegar, as they say. We expected this but that's not why I'm not sad about her. I'm sad, but I'm not really sad, not like I am about Kobe. She knew Jesus. 

All I can think about... what makes me really sad, is that I don't know if this phenomenal, amazing, brilliant guy was prepared to meet his Creator.

It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment.

Thursday, January 23, 2020

wesleyan theology

i'm finding some interesting stuff in this Christian Theology by H Orton Wiley, Methodist/Wesleyan theologian. apparently he believes the Roman Catholic Church is just a extremely divergent branch of the true church, a co-branch with the evangelical protestant church (pg 34, 75). despite admitting that the theologies vary as great as two ideologies can possibly differ, they are both valid (he doesn't say this outright, but if he believes both fall under the heading "Christian church", then that's essentially what he believes).

if the church of Christ has split into two contradictory "branches," one believing that Christ saves us by grace through faith alone, and the other declaring that faith and works justifies, works not as a result of justifying faith, but a requirement for justification, then you have two different churches and Christ's body has split in two. how can anyone teach this? how can anyone read the new testament and proclaim that the Roman Catholic Church is just another "great branch" of the church of Christ?

this is arminian theology. if you believe in free will, you deny the single greatest witness of scripture regarding the character of man. he is a dead-in-his-sins sinner, a slave to sin, unable and unwilling to please God. if you believe free will, then scripture has declared nothing to be foundational, as the unchanging, immovable rock which we are to build our lives upon, and all of the bible is subject to our sinful, self-centered, cowardly whims. God forbid we speak truth to the Catholics and tell them that the "Gospel" they have sends them to hell.

in the same section (Part I:Christian Theology of Volume I) he says that the synod of dort "expressed the positions of the protestant reformation" (pg 75) and then later admits that the synod condemned the teachings of arminius, which "forms the basis of the wesleyan teaching held by the great body of methodism." he admits that classic protestant theology (the formative theology of protestantism, i.e., the Gospel, which distinguished and separated itself from the works-based heresy of the Roman Catholic Church) condemns wesleyanism and methodism. so you admit you're a heretic without knowing you're a heretic. good grief.

in a footnote, the author says that "Scripture is not the essential Word. scripture is truly apprehended and appropriated when in it and through it we see the living and present Christ." uh... be careful here. then he goes on, "This faith [in Christ] once begotten, leads us to a new appropriation of scripture, but also to a new criticism. We find Christ more and more in scripture, and yet we judge scripture more and more by the standard which we find in Christ." (Dorner, History of Protestant Theology 1:231-264)

did you catch that? We judge scripture by what we find in Christ. How do we find Christ? By personal and direct revelation, external to scripture? by tradition? by the gift of tongues? We find Christ in SCRIPTURE, but this guy says we judge scripture by Christ. Where is he finding Christ? Which Christ is he talking about? We judge scripture by itself, by the Spirit, and it is scripture that describes Christ. If scripture reveals Christ, how do you use Christ to criticize scripture? the knowledge of Christ originates from scripture! What is this insane circle of reason he is drowning in? We find Christ in scripture, and then we criticize scripture by that Christ we find in Scripture. Maybe he means we judge scripture by itself, but i don't think he does. that's not what he says. the underlying reasoning behind this book seems to be level 0 toddler logic.

these are the guys who have built the evangelical church for the past century or so, who gave us "Jesus loves everyone," "Accept Him into your heart" and "Give Jesus a chance."

Tuesday, January 21, 2020

who does God love?

i've written this before but now i'm stuck. God loves everyone. God hates everyone. Which is true? God hates sinners because they defy him. they live in hatred of him, but he has chosen some to love, to bless, to deliver from his wrath, and the rest he will leave in sin to perish forever.

God can only love the sinner through covenant because his wrath must be satisfied before he can love them, and only the believer receives deliverance from God's wrath. God only loves those whom he elects because only those place their trust in Christ. we see this in the old testament with Israel and we see this in the new testament with believers. Romans 8 describes the benefits of God's love and this cannot in any way apply to the sinner. God loves us because we believe and we believe because he loves us.

God loves Christ because Christ perfectly displays God's nature, because he pleases him, because he is his Son. God loves Israel because he has chosen them to be his, to be in relationship with him, and to be delivered from their sin, same as all Christians. when Christ said, "For God so loved the world," he echoed God's promise to Abraham in Genesis 12.3, "In you all the families of the earth will be blessed." we saw little of this promise fulfilled in the old testament, but when Christ spoke to nicodemus, he initiated a new covenant to include "all the families" and "all the nations" of the world. in no way did he mean to include all men in this love, for God cannot love the sinner.

norman geisler reasons that since God is infinite and God is love (systematic theology, 586), that he necessarily loves everyone. God is not infinite in everything. he is "limited' by his nature, and he is "limited' by sin. he cannot love sin and he therefore cannot love the sinner (Psalm 11.5; 5.5; Proverbs 6.16-19). you cannot establish doctrine by these semantic word games. God does not love sinners, but he does love us (Romans 5). if we look closely, we will find that every scripture that appears to declare universal love for every man actually limits the scope of God's love to the believer, or to (spiritual) Israel, or to the elect chosen before the foundation of the world.

Saturday, January 11, 2020

clueless

some educated dude posted about how bad trump is. i know trump isn't great but he isn't terrible either. if we waited for the perfect politician, we'd die, or we'd find the antichrist. obama had a lot of antichrist markers: promising to save everyone, well-liked, gay, worshiped, prayed to... Jesus wouldn't even make these kinds of people happy. he pissed off a lot of religious people.

here's the article

http://eerdword.com/2020/01/10/your-bonhoeffer-moment/

like bonhoeffer is some great example. sure he wanted to murder hitler, but HE WANTED TO MURDER HITLER. maybe trust God? idk. preach the bible? allow the Holy Spirit to change hearts? isn't that the end goal? hearts for God? what do i know? i'm just a nobody anyway. scripture never commands us to murder anyone, no matter how evil he is. is stephen haynes gonna murder the antichrist when he takes power? gimme a break. does the book of Revelation command us to murder the false prophet? bonhoeffer wasn't that smart, and he was a terrible writer.

"let's take matters into our own hands and MURDER THIS GUY"

here's what i said. i doubt they even post it. currently it's "awaiting moderation"
Is this your standard? Feeling good? Moral superiority? Self righteousness?
Do you not understand that most politicians hide their flaws? That we only know of Trump’s many flaws because he has been in the public eye for decades? You use Obama as this shining example of moral blamelessness but you conveniently ignore his support for abortion and gay marriage. What is wrong with you? Is that what you want? To cover your eyes and pretend that everything is ok? So when the next Obama comes around and you can’t see his flaws because the atheist liberal media props him up, you will gladly promote him as the politician that all Christians should vote for? Good grief. Do you not understand that the Antichrist will come in the same way? Loved admired professing a solution for every problem, just like Obama who said “the oceans levels will fall”, like some Messiah. I can’t believe this ignorance. Abraham lied. David committed adultery and murder. Paul murdered so many Christians but if you are completely ignorant of someone’s crimes, they will be your man. At least we know what Trump has done. At least it’s out in the open. He’s pro life. He supports the troops and doesn’t use them as a political prop. He actually calls the grieving families personally. When did Obama ever do that for the men that died under him? He protects the borders. He doesn’t bend to terrorists or give them billions of dollars. He supports Israel and doesn’t undermine them. Trump doesn’t visit funerals of criminals killed by law enforcement who become symbols of national riots and anti white racism (Michael Brown). Gimme a break. Get a basic level of discernment
Oh yeah
Bonhoeffer was just a man. His problem was that he believed in his strength instead of God’s word. I might respect the man if he died preaching the Bible, but HE TRIED TO MURDER SOMEONE. Also he used a thousand jumbled redundant words to say what a simple man could say in a dozen. I’ve never read anyone who so needlessly obfuscated everything he talked about
at the end the guy suggests writing in "Bonhoeffer" when you vote and, "That will be a Bonhoeffer moment you can feel good about." sure, but it will accomplish exactly nothing. what is the point? aren't we supposed to actually affect the world, rather than just "feel good" about ourselves? if you believe obama will do a better job, then write him in. actually do something rather than just feel something. get a clue, man. I honestly care less about what anyone thinks about Trump than I do about Christians actually thinking

Tuesday, January 7, 2020

love and hate

God Loves Everyone


God loves all men and he has made this very clear throughout scripture.
The Lord is gracious and merciful; slow to anger and great in lovingkindness.
The Lord is good to all, and his mercies are over all his works.
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good, for his lovingkindness is everlasting.
Nothing is too difficult for you, who shows lovingkindness to thousands.
Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked, rather than that he should turn from his ways and live? … I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son.
[God] desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
[God] is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous; and he himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.[1]
Can God have spoken any clearer than this? He loves everyone and he wants everyone to be saved. What more is there to say? Wesley believed that God shows his love for all in his provision for his Creation.
God so loved the world, yea, the ungodly world, which had no thought or desire of returning to him, that he gave his Son out of his bosom, his only begotten Son, to the end that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.[2] … Nothing is more sure, than that as the Lord is loving to every man, so his mercy is over all his works; all that have sense, all that are capable of pleasure or pain, of happiness or mercy. In consequence of this, he openeth his hand, and filleth all things living with plenteousness.[3]
Finney believed so strongly that “God is love” that he said, “[Love] expresses comprehensively God’s whole moral character.”[4] Love “is the choice of the best possible end in obedience to the demand of reason and of God.”[5] God’s entire purpose is to love his Creation. Love is the most rational and moral choice in every situation. James Arminius believed that the entire end of theology is “the blessedness of man.”[6] God himself causes man’s blessedness, his goodness motivates it, and he executes it by his power.[7] Walls and Dongell conclude that “if ‘God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,’ then it would seem that the loving heart of the Father embraced the whole world as he set in motion the saving mission of the Son…It appears that God’s universal love energizes God’s worldwide mission of redemption.”[8] We see God’s love in his command to evangelize. Norman Geisler concludes that since God is infinite and his essence is love (1 John 4.16), then his love must be infinite and encompass all men.[9]

God simply loves every person in all of Creation. He loves them equally and he wants all men to be saved. He shows his love by sending his Son to die for our sins.

God Hates Everyone

God is holy, however. God’s holiness separates him from everything else in Creation that has been tainted by sin. He is known by his holiness. His holiness requires his execution of wrath on the sinner. His holiness requires that he hate sin and the soul corrupted by it.
Isaiah witnesses the seraphim flying about God’s throne and emphasizes his holiness by thrice describing the holiness of his character: “Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts, the whole earth is full of his glory” (Isaiah 6.3). Isaiah responds correctly in expecting immediate judgment for being a sinful man in the presence of the Holy God: “Woe is me, for I am ruined! Because I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts” (Isaiah 6.5).

The Arminians love to expound on the love of God as his “essential” or “primary” attribute.[10] If John says, “God is love,” (1 John 4.8, 16), then they conclude that love is his primary attribute; love is the expression of his nature first and foremost above all other attributes because of this statement of equivalence, that God equals love. If by this they conclude that God is love before all else, then we can surely conclude by the triple statement both in the Old and the New Testament that God is thrice holy above and before every other attribute.
Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God, the Almighty, who was and who is and who is to come.[11]
Stephen Charnock says, “The holiness of God is his glory, as his grace is his riches: holiness is his crown, and his mercy is his treasure. This is the blessedness and nobleness of his nature…Holiness is a glorious perfection belonging to the nature of God.”[12] If we can declare that any attribute of God’s be his “primary attribute,” then holiness is that attribute.

If any, this attribute hath an excellency above his other perfections. There are some attributes of God we prefer, because of our interest in them, and the relation they bear to us; as we esteem his goodness before his power, and his mercy whereby he relieves us, before his justice whereby he punisheth us; as there are some we more delight in, because of the goodness we receive by them; so there are some that God delights to honor, because of their excellency. None is sounded out so loftily, with such solemnity, and so frequently by angels that stand before his throne, as this. Where do you find any other attribute trebled in the praises of it, as this (Isaiah 6.3)? “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts, the whole earth is full of his glory;” and (Revelation 4.8), “The four beasts rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty,” &c., His power or sovereignty, as Lord of hosts, is but once mentioned, but with a ternal repetition of his holiness. Do you hear, in any angelical song, any other perfection of the Divine Nature thrice repeated?[13]

Arthur Pink states, “This perfection, as none other, is solemnly celebrated before the Throne of Heaven. God himself singles out this perfection, “Once I have sworn by my holiness” (Psalm 89.35). God swears by his holiness because that is a fuller expression of Himself than anything else.”[14] Thomas Watson says, “Holiness is the most sparkling jewel of his crown; it is the name by which God is known.”[15]
Again and again they tempted God, and pained the Holy One of Israel.
Holy and awesome is his name.
I will vindicate the holiness of my great name which has been profaned among the nations.[16]
Watson also tells us that “God’s holiness consists in his perfect love of righteousness, and abhorrence of evil. ‘Of purer eyes than to behold evil, and cannot look on iniquity.’ Habakkuk 1.13.”[17] God necessarily hates sin because he is holy. “He loves everything which is in conformity to his law, and loathes everything which is contrary to is,” says Pink.[18]
The devious are an abomination to the Lord.
Evil plans are an abomination to the Lord.
You hate all who do iniquity.
The one who loves violence his soul hates.
There are six things which the Lord hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers.[19]
God hates sin and the sinner who commits sin. He does not “love the sin and hate the sinner.” Sin is not simply an act that men commit separate from themselves. Sin is not simply an act of defiance but a state of defiance. We do not only commit acts of rebellion against God—we are rebellious in our thoughts, our desires, our intentions, and our actions. We are wicked. Pink says
He must necessarily punish sin. Sin can no more exist without demanding his punishment than without requiring his hatred of it. God has often forgiven sinners, but he never forgives sin; and the sinner is only forgiven on the ground of Another having borne his punishment…For one sin God banished our first parents from Eden. For one sin all the posterity of Canaan, a son of Ham, fell under a curse which remains over them to this day (Genesis 9.21). For one sin Moses was excluded from Canaan, Elisha’s servant smitten with leprosy, Ananias and Sapphira cut off out of the land of the living.[20]
We know God does not love everyone because God hated Esau (Malachi 1.2; Romans 9.9-13).[21] God hates the sinner and everyone sins, so God hates everyone.



[1] Psalm 145.8,9; 136.1; Jeremiah 32. 17, 18; Ezekiel 18.23, 32; John 3.16; 1 Timothy 2.4; 4.10; 1 John 2.1-2.
[2] Wesley, “God’s Love for Fallen Man,” I.1.
[3] Wesley, “The General Deliverance,” 1.
[4] Finney, 140.
[5] Ibid.
[6] James Arminius, The Works of Arminius: Volume 2, (Public Domain), Disputation III, page 8.
[7] Ibid.
[8] Walls and Dongell, 51.
[9] Geisler, Theology, 586.
[10] Ibid, 86; Wesley, “Free Grace,” VI.; Finney, Theology, 140.
[11] Revelation 4.8
[12] Stephen Charnock, The Existence and the Attributes of God: Volume 2, (Grand Rapids: Baker Books, 1996), 110.
[13] Ibid, 112.
[14] Arthur W. Pink, The Attributes of God, (Grand Rapids: Baker Books, 1975), page 42.
[15] Watson, 82.
[16] Psalm 78.41; 111.9; Ezekiel 36.23
[17] Watson, 83.
[18] Pink, 43.
[19] Proverbs 3.32; 15.26; Psalm 5.5; 11.5; Proverbs 6.16-19.
[20] Pink, 43.
[21] God chose Jacob and not Esau. God made a covenant with Jacob and led him to Egypt so he could demonstrate his power and love through his deliverance, but to Esau he gave Mount Seir (Joshua 24.4). God had no covenant with Esau, neither the person nor the nation, and no desire to show his love for Esau through a great trial and redemption, because he did not love Esau.

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